Talk:Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2023
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Please add the following paragraph underneath the subheading 'Fiction inspired by the duo'. Feel free to make changes or reject altogether:
The 1999 teen black comedy crime film "Duck! The Carbine High Massacre" was released just six months after Columbine. It is loosely based on the events of the massacre with two trench-coat wearing neo-nazi male protagonists Derwin and Derick, (played by William Hellfire and Joey Smack, respectively) who wish to kill students and susequently themselves after Derwin (who is supposedly meant to represent Eric Harris) is assaulted by jocks. Faithnomore1999 (talk) 14:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shadow311 (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- What kind of source would be sufficient? Faithnomore1999 (talk) 13:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- See the explanation at MOS:POPCULT. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Should this entry redirect to the Columbine High School massacre entry (or vice versa) regarding 'motive' and 'rationale' sections?
[edit]The entry for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold and the entry for the Columbine High School massacre both include sections that theorize the motive or rationale behind the massacre. Both entries overlap in their motive and rationale sections while also deviating and covering different information in different orders and at different weights.
It seems like a good way to handle this would be to choose which entry should be the source of truth for documenting theories about motive and rational. In my opinion, the Columbine High School massacre entry is the right place for lengthy documentation of theories about motives—motive is specifically about the massacre, not necessarily a biographical fact, and much of it is speculative (or debunked).
But I don't know about the standards for writing about murders / acts of terrorism vs. their perpetrators on Wikipedia, so I don't want to make any edits before putting this question to the talk page. Is there a way this is handled in other examples? TypingMadeSimple (talk) 00:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2024
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The lead paragraph has this:
"After killing most of their victims in the school's library, they died by self-inflicted gunshot wounds."
They very much did die of self-inflicted gunshot wounds, but (maybe being pedantic) this seems an odd way to phrase it - it's like they already had the gunshot wounds before the shooting, and died of them afterwards. Or that they shot themselves on accident. The article for the Columbine massacre itself has it as:
"Ten of the twelve students killed were in the school library, where Harris and Klebold subsequently died by suicide."
My request is to change the sentence (in bold) of the lead paragraph to "they died by suicide", "they committed suicide" or any variation, or if we're being more specific "they committed suicide by shooting themselves" (as precedent, for an article where the last of these is the phrasing, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_schoolyard_shooting)
Thank you 2A02:C7E:2F68:AC00:998E:5154:94E7:7785 (talk) 18:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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